Wednesday, 29 September 2010


Colin Coward in The Changing Attitude blog writes an article that gives a little more insight into life for all the gay (celibate) bishops that Rowan William is absolutely fine with, the ones that don't exist in the Church of England, even though there are apparently 10-13 of them...

It reminded me of this from my childhood:

When I was going up the stair
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
Oh, how I wish he'd go away.

Goodness, C of E policy in verse.

Wonder why they call it nonsense rhyme?


  1. One fine day in the middle of the night,
    Two dead boys got up to fight,
    Back to back they faced each other,
    Drew their swords and shot each other,

    One was blind and the other couldn't, see
    So they chose a dummy for a referee.
    A blind man went to see fair play,
    A dumb man went to shout "hooray!"
    A paralysed donkey passing by,
    Kicked the blind man in the eye,
    Knocked him through a nine inch wall,
    Into a dry ditch and drowned them all,

    A deaf policeman heard the noise,
    And came to arrest the two dead boys, If you don't believe this story's true,
    Ask the blind man he saw it too!

  2. Could someone explain to me why, whereas a recent study found 1.5% of Britons to be homosexual, they should represent over 10% of our bishops? Pardon the pub, but has Colin got his facts straight?

  3. I was read somewhere that an organisation (think it was inclusive church) estimate that more than 30% of priests in some London dioceses are gay. If anyone knows, it would be Colin, so I guess he won't be that far out.

    If it is true, then I don't know why it might be that the church attracts so many gay people?Perhaps LGBT people are often more spiritual? :)

  4. Just noticed my typo - how silly and funny! Suggests I'd just spent a bit too long in one!!

    Suem do you know whether the church (not the priesthood) does indeed attract gays disproportionately? Because if not, then that means that there's something about the ordination selection process - something quite longstanding - that gives them an advantage. What on earth could that be?

  5. Actually that might not be the only option - it could also be that there's nothing to favour selecting homosexuals but they simply happen to apply in disproportionate numbers. Again, though, I can't think why that could be?

  6. I've got no idea if the church, or priesthood, really does attract gays disproportionately.

    You seem to be implying that one is more likely to be selected for ordination if gay. I don't think that is very likely, I guess most gay people stay quiet about their sexuality during selection.
    Colin has written another post about how he knows about the numbers,he says,

    "How do I know there are between 10 and 13 gay bishops in the Church of England? Some I know personally. Friends and colleagues of other bishops repeatedly confirm to me that their friend or colleague is gay. One of them, Peter Wheatley, Bishop of Edmonton, was named as gay and partnered in the national press when first appointed, repeated at the time of Jeffrey John’s trauma in Reading. Two were members of my post-ordination training group in Southwark. One I trained alongside in Cambridge. Some are married, most are single."

    It could be that there is a long term "gay culture" in the C of E. I think there might be in some dioceses, but I don't have enough insider insight to really say for definite!